At house, Dutch director Halina Reijn is called an acclaimed stage and display actress, albeit with a repute for oversharing. “I used to be raised by radical hippies, so nobody teaches me boundaries,” she says unapologetically. “I’m simply open about every thing. This scares individuals within the Netherlands. It’s like, ‘I do not want your honesty proper now.'” Now her profile can add: Talented author and director of “Babygirl,” a steamy thriller starring Nicole Kidman as a buttoned-up CEO who falls in with a harmful relationship with a younger intern (Harris Dickinson), risking his life collectively along with his husband (Antonio Banderas) and daughters, nevertheless, he’s nonetheless somebody who tells the reality prudish,” he says, describing a Kidman scene to make his level. “The scene I discover most fun is when she’s ingesting milk and he is throughout the bar. They’re not even touching.”
You’re a self-professed erotic drama completionist. Name a couple of favorites.
I watched all of them. “9 and a half weeks.” “Indecent proposal”. I might die for them. They made me really feel much less alone in my darkish sexual fantasies. But with all of the endings, I all the time thought, “Ugh. It’s boring to me. I really like Paul Verhoeven. He is my mentor. But “Basic Instinct” is so sexist. And I had lots of enjoyable making a movie that performs with all of the clichés.
For instance?
When Nicole sits there and Harris dances for her, it is a direct mirror of Mickey Rourke watching Kim Basinger dance in “9 1/2 Weeks.” The membership scene? It comes from “Basic Instinct” however with my contact.
Where did you get the concept to make use of microexpressions – humiliation, exasperation, contempt – to make individuals snort?
(Bertolt) Brecht. Breaking the fourth wall is an historic factor, particularly within the European theater. I instructed Nicole from the start, “My complete film is a few lady who simply cannot be – she thinks she has to play all these completely different roles – mom, daughter, spouse, chief.” I needed to make use of that idea as a metaphor for your complete movie. And Nicole is so good at proving it mathematically and technically.
Harris Dickinson and Nicole Kidman in “Babygirl.”
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Have you studied how one can direct a intercourse scene?
I’ve performed so many in my performing profession, so I actually really feel at house. But emotionally intimate scenes might be simply as awkward as bodily intimate scenes. What helps is to organize your self to the tooth. Have a really clear plan. For instance, within the opening orgasm, a few of that’s shot with out Antonio there as a result of it is only a close-up of (Nicole). To make her really feel secure, I sat very near her. The factor I hated is when a director says, “OK, now you guys make love. Just do one thing.” And that is how I’ve felt as an actress my complete life.
What’s a director’s method that made you suppose, “Seriously?”
So a director, very well-known internationally, was sitting in a swimsuit, and we (had been) on the opposite aspect of the studio taking pictures intimate scenes, and he was speaking into the microphone. (He laughs)
Let’s speak about “Babygirl” check screenings.
I appreciated it so much. But a traditional sexual thriller has an ethical, and a few stated they had been upset that the movie did not take something away from it. They anticipated that the cheater (ought to) be punished or killed. So we had the screening check report, the place they let you know, “40% of individuals suppose this and 30% of individuals suppose that.” A24 discovered it attention-grabbing. But they stated, “You do not have to alter something.”

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How did the Dutch react if you directed the horror comedy “Bodies, Bodies, Bodies”?
I come from radical arthouse theatre. This is my picture. This is what I breathe. I made “Instinct,” a brilliant darkish arthouse movie financed completely by the federal government. And then I’m going and make “Bodies.” My complete nation was saying, “He’s going to direct a horror film? What is he doing?” For me, I needed to step out of my security of Ibsen, Shakespeare and into a totally completely different world. I assumed A24 was the Holy Grail of every thing, however that wasn’t the way it was seen in my little, tiny microworld of the Netherlands.
And now that Nicole Kidman is successful awards for main actress?
It’s a bit bit European, however we have a tendency to essentially admire anybody who makes it in America, no matter which means. In Venice, when all of the opinions began popping out, A24 was saying, “Oh my God, have a look at this. Look at that.” And I assumed: “Does the Dutch newspaper write one thing?” It’s so embarrassing, however I nonetheless need to please the motherland.